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Old 07-26-2007, 02:06 PM
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"- two people are concerned about photo's that are being stolen;"

That's simply wrong. There are already numerous discussions on this forum about photos being stolen. Going by just discussion alone (where this discussion is actually off-topic) is not a good idea!
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:10 PM
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Well, I'm an IT (even web development) professional as well, and I'll confirm it's is technically not possible to actually make it impossible to copy what is shown in the window of a browser.

Still there are other things that can be done: prevent hot-linking and discourage copying. See my earlier message about this.

And I think these things at least should be done - I'm firmly in the camp of TE users who are concerned about photos being stolen!
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:24 PM
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Default TIME FOR SOME ACTION

But for now,there is only one solution.IE:the use of the copyright sign with my name.
It will not prevent theft,but will prove the bad intenton of the thief,especially if he removes the signature.

But I will greatly prefer a better solution,like suggested by Marjolein.

I wish that talking about it is over,and that something will be done soon by the admin. before we loose more members,as we see more and more account being closed.

Charles
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Old 07-26-2007, 02:29 PM
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This is my last intervention, because its becoming technical and I guess this discussion might go on between specialists. Maybe if many of you put their brains together, someone will come up with a solution to propose to the admistrators.

But following your latest intervention, Ive tried to apply the method about turning off javascript to copy a photo. Ive been on two websites and I wasnt able to copy it. I dont know if its because Im working on a Mac or if Im the dummiest internaut, but it doesnt work.

The following links have two different way to block the copy. Would it be possible for one of the IT guys to check this out and to confirm you know your way around to by-pass the security of these sites and actually copy one of their photos?

http://www.thomasbachand.com/photography/gallery/6.html

http://www.markcooper.it/english/gallery.htm

The second website have "floating" photos that you cant grab... At least, for a novice like me.

Thank you and good luck! Our survival are in your hands...
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Old 07-26-2007, 03:08 PM
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On the first, photos are watermarked - that's one of the "solutions" I suggested as an option. I see no other protection than that - but it's a discouragement, at least.

On the second, when I click on a thumbnail I get an "overlay" with an enlarged image; when I right-click on that I can (in Firefox) choose "view photo" which loads just the image (with black background) in the browser - and from there I can I can do save as... - really easy, no protection at all that I can see. And I have not even disabled JavaScript!

I did not check hot-linking protection.
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Old 07-26-2007, 03:18 PM
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Default Re: conclusion so far

I'm a Mac user at home. Right now I'm at work and using a Windows PC. Using Firefox, my favorite browser, I was able to save picture on Mark Cooper site simply by doing a mouse right click and save the picture on my hard drive. Thomas Bachand site was a little tougher as I have to look into the page source code to locate the jpg file. It took me about 5 minutes. All this could have also be done with Iexplorer (I've tried it).

As a proof, I've posted the pictures I have stolen from those site as workshop of the last picture I've posted on TE. Check them <s>here</s>. I will delete them now.
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Old 07-26-2007, 03:36 PM
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Umm, not to put too fine a point on it, but I managed to grab images from both those sites in well under a second; in fact it took longer for the pages to load than it did for me to rip the images and I don't even have any special software installed!

Almost every version of Windows currently in use has a screengrab function built-in; press the PrntScrn button, and the current window is immediately copied to the clipboard.

If you have Photoshop open all you then need to do is Open/New and then Paste.

Total time taken to grab the images less than a second.

Trust me, there really is no way to prevent someone grabbing an image; it's trivially easy to do.

Put a watermark on your images; and don't upload saleable size images. Those are the only two things that'll make any real difference.

All adding javascipt will do is reduce accessibility, and frustrate those of us who perform workshops ;)
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:01 PM
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Hot-Linking from any of the Trek site is not possible. If one try to do that,all one's get is the treksite logo and not the actual picture.
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Old 07-26-2007, 04:26 PM
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All what you see in a browser you will find in your Tempory Internet Files, JPEG's, even protected Flash as swf and so on, even flash photo presentations can be break down to retrieve photos but what the hell, a screendump works too.

The only thing to do is to put a copyright logo over it as transparant when you are not logged in to trace tracks from the logged in pirate.

But what not mentionned here is that stealing from TE is harming the site also to grow even more so it is nothing more then a win-win situation, some kind of protection of the site will protect their members also. That leaves us to the question, is there still some ambition to let TE grow even more ? Not growing these times means dying.
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Old 07-27-2007, 07:36 PM
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Good - that's one hole already closed then! (Of course that not only protect our images from being used directly elsewhere, but also saves bandwidth for TE.)

That leaves the watermarking option...
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