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Old 06-17-2009, 08:36 AM
fanni fanni is offline
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Hello to everybody :)

some food for thought, concerning the issue:

"He who is contending for a piece of earthenware puts forth all his skill. If the prize be a buckle of brass, he shoots timorously; if it be for an article of gold, he shoots as if he were blind.

The skill of the archer is the same in all the cases; but (in the two latter cases) he is under the influence of solicitude, and looks on the external prize as most important. All who attach importance to what is external show stupidity in themselves."

just my two cents...
:-)
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Old 06-17-2009, 09:20 AM
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There's no need to get sick and tired of listening to the moanings and complaints. You can close your ears and continue to upload photos :) I am not getting disturbed for listening to those who defend opposite views.

I have also expressed my critics concerning the new face of the site, since I don't find it user friendly. However, I am not one of those who erase all their photos just by clicking the "delete" button. If you do this, you not only erase your own photos, but also hundreds of valuable (and time-consuming) critics, comments, workshops done by other respective users.

Aften the new version, I am not a TE addict as I used to be before. But it's still nice with the existence of many friendly people here.
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Old 06-17-2009, 11:34 AM
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Default Re: Am I the only one....?

"See how the minnows come and swim about where they please! That's what fish really enjoy!"
"You're not a fish how do you know what fish enjoy?"
"You're not me, so how do you know I don't know what fish enjoy?"
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Old 06-17-2009, 11:46 AM
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Great ;-)
Chuang Tzu, Chapter 17!
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Old 06-17-2009, 01:44 PM
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Default Re: Am I the only one....?

I am impressed by the depth of this philosophical thought :)
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Old 06-17-2009, 05:20 PM
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"See how the minnows come and swim about where they please! That's what fish really enjoy!"
"You're not a fish how do you know what fish enjoy?"
"You're not me, so how do you know I don't know what fish enjoy?"

Who do you think you are - Eric Cantona???? :-) All a bit deep for me.

Back to the original purpose of this topic though. Yes there has been a lot of moaning, some of it justified - much of it not. Most people don't actively enjoy change and some will seek out justification for that dislike.
Bottom line to me is this - Look at the site in its entirety and then if you decide, on balance, that there are more aspects that you dislike than like ask yourself the question "Should I stay or go?". Make you decision and stand by it, but please stop the whingeing!!!!!
Concerns and complaints are generally more constructively dealt with by direct contact with site mods (true for all sites not just TE), because the natural reaction when berated publicly is to become even more entrenched and less amenable to suggestions.
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Old 06-19-2009, 11:45 PM
KevRyan KevRyan is offline
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Darling you gotta let me know
Should I stay or should I go?
If you say that you are mine
Ill be here til the end of time
So you got to let know
Should I stay or should I go?

Always tease tease tease
Siempre - coqetiando y enganyando
Youre happy when Im on my knees
Me arrodilla y estas feliz
One day is fine, next is black
Un dias bien el otro negro
So if you want me off your back
Al rededar en tu espalda
Well come on and let me know
Me tienes que desir
Should I stay or should I go?
Me debo ir o que darme

Should I stay or should I go now?
Should I stay or should I go now?
If I go there will be trouble
An if I stay it will be double
So come on and let me know

This indecisions bugging me
Esta undecision me molesta
If you dont want me, set me free
Si no me quieres, librame
Exactly whom Im supposed to be
Diga me que tengo ser
Dont you know which clothes even fit me?
saves que robas me querda?
Come on and let me know
Me tienes que desir
Should I cool it or should I blow?
me debo ir o quedarme?

The Clash - Should I Stay or Should I Go

Should I stay or should I go now?
yo me frio o lo sophlo?
If I go there will be trouble
Si me voi - va ver peligro
And if I stay it will be double
Si me quedo es doble
So you gotta let me know
Me tienes que decir
Should I stay or should I go?
yo me frio o lo sophlo?
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Old 06-20-2009, 01:09 PM
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I dont think the wingers complain without reason, Dan. The truth is that, for many, TE used to be great and now it is less so. Almost all of the really talented photographers, who gave so much to TE, over the years, have left or have been expelled. The standard of photography has plummeted as has the quality of criticism.
They have been replaced by an army of happy snappers, many of whom seem uninterested in improving their work or in giving or receiving objective critiques. Their average critique goes something like Great picture Fred, I like the color
Now we get loads of average or poor pictures that receive lavish praise from a circle of friends, with whom they exchange praise and points regardless of the dreary quality of the work. (We should not be worried about upsetting them here, because, as far as I can see, none of them ever read the forums; there are no points in that!)
The final thing to disillusion many, was the canceling of the ability to amend a critique . The chorus of pleading from the membership, to leave this alone, as ever, fell on deaf ears.

Those who made TE great, have either left, are thinking of leaving, are complaining or who are agreeing with the complainers, in the hope that some of the quality and the commitment might return. So, yes! Dan, I think you could just about be the only one.
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Old 06-20-2009, 02:35 PM
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Oh, the world is really getting so petty?
on the one hand.... yes!
But then, on the other hand.....

What has been will be again,
what has been done will be done again;
there is nothing new under the sun.

Say not thou, What is the cause that the former days were better than these? for thou dost not inquire wisely concerning this ;-)
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Old 06-20-2009, 08:16 PM
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Default Re: Am I the only one....? FOR DAN ;-))

The One and Only - Chesney Hawkes

I am the one and only oh yeah
Call me, call me by my name or call me by number
You put me through it
I'll still be doing it the way I do it
And yet, you try to make me forget
Who I really am, don't tell me I'm no best
I'm not the same as all the rest

Chorus:
I am the one and only
Nobody I'd rather be
I am the one and only
You can't take that away from me

I've been a player in the crowd scene
A flicker on the big screen
My soul embraces one more in a million faces
High hopes and aspirations, and years above my station
Maybe but all this time I've tried to walk with dignity and pride

Chorus

I can't wear this uniform without some compromises
Because you'll find out that we come
In different shapes and sizes
No one can be myself like I can
For this job I'm the best man
And while this may be true, you are the one and only you

Chorus (twice)


...and here's the man himself!


http://www.pbase.com/kaparu2/image/113010501

I guess at the end of the day consumers will buy into what they think suits them best - collaborators will work to make something they feel some ownership of work better and better. If I ever get any free time again I'd like to continue the 'conversations' through photography again but right now I don't even know this 'new' site.

When I do have time I'll give it a go - perhaps it will be lke joining something completely new by the time I get back to it - at least i will have the joy of pretty much discovering something for the first time (again)!

I've had a truly great time participating in TE and who knows.......!

best wishes Kev
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